Zotlabs|Hubzilla Development

Mark

Wed, 17 Nov 2021 23:33:17 +0000

Hi folks, my first post on/with hubzilla.

I just installed Hubzilla latest on a Ubuntu server with nginx. I used certbot to upgrade the connection to https and handle the certificates. Worked like a charm. Almost.

I am getting mixed content warnings for two files: manifest.json and hz-32.png

Is there anyone who can point me in the right direction to get rid of that warning? Please note: my nginx.conf skills are low :P

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Mark

Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:07:25 +0000

And some more help needed. Just enabled some plugins. One of them TOTP via the admin page.
I cannot do anyting with the settings anymore:

You haven't set a TOTP secret yet. Please click the button below to generate one and register this site with your preferred authenticator app.

The button does not work. It shows me a "password" field, which is insecure. It does not work when I enter any password, nor does it generate a token. Any help disabling this via the cli (or fixing the problem) is appreciated!

Mark

Thu, 18 Nov 2021 07:27:08 +0000

Ok, so I managed to remote totp via util/addons uninstall totp.
First I tried "util/config system.totp 0". Is there a line with that text somewhere in a config file or the db now? If so: how can I remove it?

Mario Vavti

Thu, 18 Nov 2021 08:44:48 +0000

Hm... In general it is advised to enable SSL before installing Hubzilla...
Please have a look in .htconfig.php -> $a->config['system']['baseurl'] and set it to https if it is not.

Mark

Thu, 18 Nov 2021 09:21:51 +0000

Thank you! I actually did a search through a lot of .php files for this, but I did not know the .htconfig.php file. This fixed it!

And as for the "in general": I agree, but by the time I thought of that (which was when I had to enter my admin pass...) it was to late. I enabled ssl at that time, but got this error.

I followed some other online install guide. I did not find the Hubzilla install documentation very user friendly compared to Mastodon for instance. However, I do see that everything I asked here is actually mentioned there. I just find it harder to find then the "Install this --> do that --> configure this --> done" format of some other software. Guess I should have read the whole thing before install :D

Mario Vavti

Sun, 28 Nov 2021 21:56:40 +0000

@Mark I am seeing a weird issue with your channel and i think it is related to the fact that you changed from http to https after installation.

The problem as far as i can say at the moment is your hubloc site id which is calculated from the site url and your systems key. I guess since the site url changed the site id can not be verified or something like that...

Still investigating...

What does the community need from the experts to make the Hubzilla project a success?

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Tue, 26 Oct 2021 05:33:42 +0000

A well thought-out system design can be helpful for a time-saving clarification of the cause of the error

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@Witcraft

What do the experts need from me to narrow down the problem?

[1] Channel behaving strange with some other channels

To me it looks like the clarification of the cause of the error - and not only for this specific error/ malfunction "Channel behaving strangely with some other channels" [1], but for many other errors - would be much faster and with much less effort if the programmers, the developers and the entire community would take a sober and unbiased look at this thesis

A well thought-out system design can be helpful for a time-saving clarification of the cause of the error.

and, after sober consideration, organise the cooperation in the project accordingly. Personally, I am of the opinion that a major shortcoming of the Hubzilla project and an insurmountable hurdle is that in the event of any disruption, one has to rely on the know-how of experts:

What do the experts need from me to narrow down the problem?

[1]
@mike

This logic was added to most every place I know in the code where we're attempting signature verification. Your experience suggests that at least one place where we're doing verification is lacking this modification.

The trick it seems is finding it.

[1]
I personally think that the Hubzilla project only has a chance to win over more users and developers if from now on further development of new features in the Hubzilla project is frozen and the

developers who are familiar with the design, the architecture of the Hubzilla project document and visualise this know-how in such a way that the hurdles for developers to enter the Hubzilla project are lowered.

So that not only a few Hubzilla experts or @Witcraft, but also other interested, affected people have a chance to get involved in clarifying the cause of this "channel behaving strangely with some other channels" and for other errors.

By the way @Witcraft - a proven method for error handling is the creation of meaningful error reports. In the meantime, is there a bug report for bug [1] in framagit?

#hubzillaDesign #CommunityDesign #HubzillaDeveloping #coreDeveloper #Debugging #HubzillaDebugging

hubloc

Hilmar R (u-zapalot)

Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:02:48 +0000

Question:
Is it healthy that table hubloc has identical rows, where only two fields differ: 1. hubloc_id (of course) and 2. hubloc_guid_sig and the 2nd only by the prefix sha256 (and remainder equals).

select hubloc_addr,COUNT(hubloc_hash) as n from hubloc where hubloc_deleted=0 group by hubloc_hash,hubloc_network having n > 1 order by hubloc_addr;

From the result, one can take some hublog_id values to examine, ie
select * from hubloc where hubloc_id in(4101,4133)\G;

Mario Vavti

Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:12:52 +0000

Well, yes... Those are the clone locations...

Hilmar R (u-zapalot)

Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:19:15 +0000

Thank you.

Zap protocol documentation

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Mon, 04 Oct 2021 15:37:58 +0000

@zotlabs.org | Hubzilla Development on which server is the Zap protocol documentation published? The "Get Zap" link here https://zotlabs.org/page/zap/zap generates the message

Page Not Found

#ZapProtocol #zap #protocol #hubzilla# #hubzillaProtocol #Zot

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Mon, 04 Oct 2021 18:24:54 +0000

thank you @Oliver. Is there a graphical representation, perhaps a simple handwritten sketch, of how Zap protocol is structured?

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Mon, 04 Oct 2021 18:30:15 +0000

Where can I find out about the Nomad protocol mentioned here https://zotlabs.com/zap/ ? A handwritten note on the structure of Nomad protocol would also be nice. I am an eye person

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Mon, 04 Oct 2021 18:35:37 +0000

I see - Nomad-Protocol used to be called Zot

DEV Branch Warning!

Mario Vavti

Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:25:02 +0000

Importing channels while cloning might be slightly wonky for some days while i am working on content importers ported from zap.
Checking out commit 3eeb2b0ee483bfb5c845dd4cc5e6a4915526a383 should keep you safe if you mind.

I will post here as soon as the dust settles...

Mario Vavti

Tue, 28 Sep 2021 10:05:25 +0000

It appears to work ok now.

added your channel about 2 hours from now

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Sun, 19 Sep 2021 04:50:43 +0000

This may perhaps not only lead to curiosities, like messages from the future, but may perhaps lead to technical problems, to communication breakdowns during communication?

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Hubzilla variables, Hubzilla values. Overview

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Sat, 11 Sep 2021 06:51:58 +0000

Is there an overview in the Hubzilla project that describes which values are stored in each variable?

#HubzillaProject #HubzillaVariables #HubzillaVariablen #HubzillaVariablesOverview @zotlabs.org | Hubzilla Development

Fix the problem of PhantomID's sustainably

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Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:10:20 +0000

Hi,

@Mario Vavti [1] is a workaround and not a solution because "There is no guarantee that the error will not happen again" [2]. I would like to know what is the reason that it has become necessary to develop the workaround [1]? What is the reason that the data is incomplete? If the community knows the cause of the error, then we can maybe develop together purposeful approaches and solutions. With the PhantomID bug Hubzilla has not lived up to the claim

allows anybody to publicly or privately publish content via "channels", which are the fundamental, cryptographically secured identities that provide authentication independently of the hubs which host them.

/help
and they needlessly miss opportunities to attract more users, especially for professional applications.

[1] fix missing or hubloc_id_url entries - https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/blob/master/Zotlabs/Module/Fhubloc_id_url.php
[2] "There is no guarantee that the error will not happen again" - https://hub.somaton.com/item/f6ce1fba-b2f5-438d-aaa3-0e2093c38ecb (german)

#PhantomID #PhantomIDBug

Fake identities in Hubzilla

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Wed, 08 Sep 2021 05:09:17 +0000

I would like to know if and what factors, protocol peculiarities of Zot / Diaspora provide for this magical multiplication and permanent transformation of identities. Anyway, to have a purposeful conversation in a cross-platform Hubzilla/Diaspora communication, it is beneficial to know that such a phenomenon ChameleonIdentity / PhantomIdentity / Fake-Identity exists.

more --> https://realtime.fyi/articles/nmoplus/fake-identities-in-hubzilla

#FakeIdentity #IdentityObfuscation #ChameleonIdentity #FantomIdentity #HartmutNoak #NinahPixie #PhantomIdentity #SuperGAU #ThrueIdentity #Trust #Fakeidentities #FakeIdentity

Mario Vavti

Wed, 08 Sep 2021 05:55:16 +0000

As mentioned in the other thread there has been a bug in Hubzilla some time ago. It should have been fixed by a database update. Possibly something went wrong at your hub though. Please visit /fhubloc_id_url as admin to fix the issue. The fix is not retroactive.

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Fri, 10 Sep 2021 03:56:31 +0000

Core developer in the Diaspora project Dennis Schubert shares upon request:

diaspora* attaches a signature to every item sent over the federation layer, and diaspora* verifies this signature on receiving any item. You cannot forge this signature without having access to the accounts’ private key, and you cannot federate anything without a signature or with an invalid signature inside diaspora*.

If Hubzilla fails to validate signatures, or somehow internally mis-attributes a post/comment to another user, then that’s a bug in Hubzilla that should be raised with Hubzilla.

FakeIdentity, ChameleonIdentity, IdentityObfuscation, 09.09.2021 - https://discourse.diasporafoundation.org/t/fakeidentity-chameleonidentity-identityobfuscation/4163

I have created a bug report "FakeIdentity, ChameleonIdentity, IdentityObfuscation" https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/issues/1608 .

Add tag to image

Malendur

Wed, 14 Jul 2021 00:17:07 +0000

Hi

Do you know why the "add tag" line was removed from the edit image form since #hubzilla 6.0?

Thanks.

hubzilla

Xanthor

Wed, 14 Jul 2021 00:31:09 +0000

emaxmax

Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:24:15 +0000

It was caused by this commit: https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/commit/6e91bee0ba605b938bddf0570e747d6d7be1c712
From @Mario Vavti

(But no doc nor any comment to explain that...)

Caranistar

Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:46:59 +0000

@emaxmax
I tried to revert this commit by adding dynamically the removed HTML code in the page, and it seems to work: the tag is added, and the image becomes searchable. The tag is correctly sync between clones.